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Renowned Kenyan Afro-fusion singer Eric Wainaina has broken his silence about the controversial homosexuality debate.
Speaking at the Africa Conference for Collaborations, Exchange and Showcases held at the Kenya National Theater in Nairobi, the artiste has come to the defense of homosexuals.
The award-winning afro-pop musician says most of his colleagues are gay and insists that their sexual orientation should be no one's business.
“A lot of our colleagues are gay. Who someone chooses to love has nothing to do with you. Concern yourself with things that you do," the "Dunia ina Mambo" hit-maker notes.
He adds:" We have to play our part in defining Africa’s present and future agenda. We can’t let the agenda be decided by the conservative, polyester, oversized suit, bald-headed men."
In Kenya, members of the LGBT community are still stigmatized and the constitution outlaws relationships between people of the same gender. President Kenyatta terms homosexuality as a non-issue in Kenya.
"I won't engage in a subject that is of no importance to the people of Kenya. This is not an issue of human rights, this is an issue of our own base as a culture, as a people regardless of which community you come from," President Kenyatta said in an interview with CNN.
"This is not about Uhuru Kenyatta saying yes or no, this is an issue of the people of Kenya themselves who have bestowed upon themselves a Constitution after several years of clearly stating that this is not acceptable and is not a subject they are willing to engage in at this time and moment."
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These are the kind of People that (if had been known before Birth) should have been Discarded in Pit LATRINES or given to Amboseli or Maassai Mara for the HYENNAS to Feast on.
These are humans... You are horrible for saying such things about other people's children and loved ones. Are you perfect? Without sin? Then if so, you may damn another's soul and cast the first stone.
These are humans without Human CONSCIENCE; bila Adabu; na mwishowe: GADHABU.
You sound like LOT's wife in the land of Sodom and Gomorrah; turned into Stone (i.e without Human CONSCIENCE).. But believe it or not: Choices have CONSEQUENCES; mine or yours.
You are right... I am modern day Lots wife. I will defend all humans whether they say like me or love whomever they choose. I will be ok turning to stone. My conscience is none of your concern. Your ugly heart needs healing from your religious demons! Get down from your high horse.
@Guest 1 from your posts,iget the impression that you are a christian,or the follower of the son of mary as kenya halisi would put it.But writing vile stuff like this makes me think that you are now in bed with Lucipher.
I agree with you Maxiley. Then again, they say you can't educate pork.
Yes I am. And its because: If Homosexuality had the Upper hand like you're ADVOCATING, the Earth would have NO Soul (because Homosexuity begets Nothing; Zero!!!). As such I am Immpasioned by the ZEAL of God to say like it is "As when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring cities" declares the LORD "so no man shall dwell there, and no son of man shall sojourn in her." JEREMIAH 50:40
How about you worrying about yourself,and let the homosexuals worry about themselves,and the the law of man guide us all.as long as we are on this earth.
You sound like you would favor a murderous ,violent heteresexual fellow over,and law abiding homosexual.I dont get it.
By the way, re-read my posts. I advocate for justice,and human arights for all .
By now you should know that my religion SCIENCE( research on human sexual behavior)tells us that there has always existed about 10% of homosexuals in every known human society. So dont worry homosexuals are not going to gain the upper hand over 80% heterosexuals.
I would suggest you worry more about starving children, thieves, murders, prostitution( though some may disagree), rape, cheating of anykind.These social evil I have mentioned do more harm to mankind than homosexuality.Prove me wrong.
Kabisa Maxiley... Wacha hii upuzi ya watu with closed minds hiding behind the pages of the Bible or holy book with nothing but hate, prejudice and no regard for human life. A darn shame even their religious God is looking down ashamed of them. Embarrassing that God and spreading hate in the name of uplifting the scriptures. They should all go and sit in a corner somewhere! SMDH!
This is a really sad comment. For those of us who have watched CNN, two of their best reporters, journalists, are gay. They do not report in a "gay" way. I strongly believe that it's not a choice. Gay people are born that way. And for those who would put a religious twist to it, you would be questioning Gods work by suggesting he made a mistake by allowing them to be born. Let's all be tolerant and hope all that's hidden will be revealed. That's what the bible says.
@mwangi, they are not born like that. God did not create man to have desire for another man and vice versa. Kinyesi line is not attractive. Even you cannot imagine how they do it with all that poop and smell. Most of those gays were sodomized when they were young and that evil spirit got into them.
Exactly.
@kenya,what makes you an expert to say that they are born that way?.My take is that no sane being would make such a choice knowing that the world would be very hostile, and even kill then,when they have the choice to avoid it?
In fact there is some evidence gaining traction that our sexuality may be "fluid ".in other words we dont fit nicely in the male-female binary ,or homo-hetero binary we have been lead to believe
And isee nothing wrong with that.Human being will still find away to procreate,if that's your worry.
Thank you @Maxiley. People who are not open minded and willing to educate themselves will always be in the dark. That bible being quoted never dropped from heaven, it was written by man gazzilion years ago so I don't see why they should not open a few more books written by man recently to further sharpen their thoughts. What a waste of human brain. So many are suffering from brain injuries wish they were given the brain of say @Guest1 to utilize it better.
Very ignorant and stupid judgemental statement.. How would you know if you are born simply desiring the opposite sex of your choice. Get down from your pedestal and learn a bit. You and Guest1 are simply just as every other human being scared of what they do not know nor understand! Absolutely no regard for human life. Disgusting!
I don't think I would call Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon as their "best" reporters - granted to me CNN is too much noisy , I prefer PBS other channels that have more balances reporting( with less " expert" pundits) and may I say Amanpour clearly is much better than the two . I 'm not sure there is any reporter who report in "gay way" and they do have them in NBC , BBC, so that is not really a point here . I think we need to agree, there is for and against and we can't force each side to accept the other side. Personally, I have said it here before, whatever you shag after dark is your business , just do not choke me down on my throat with it - the crusade that seems to be homosexuality these days
Reporters are here to make money, and not to inform. They have tarnished a once noble profession.
Homosexuality is aka DEAD wood and even Brain dead. It's Embracers, Entertainers, and Supporters for real have Got NO Conscience and therefore Walking ZOMBIES. This means this lifestyle has no Roots and therefore Bears no Fruits by its PRACTITIONERS. Hence just Dirty and Dog habit that God HATED in Sodom and Gomorrah (to Him raining Fires of Hell on them). Anyway...... May the LORD God Himself have His final say on them.
With the likes of you spreading such hate.... We are all doomed. Pia umalaya haipendwi kwa bibilia na bado iko. Go sit in a corner somewhere with your hateful comments.
You're Homosexual😰; I am Heterosexual.😂
@Sebi, hate is in Christianity too and what you see is devilish behavior hidden behind Christianity.
Atheist Dutch, Danes, Finns, Swiss and Swedish have a lower case of teenage pregnancy and their kids delay sexual activity on average 2 years later than any conservative christian region of the world - a study was recently published in a leading medical journal- don't recall exactly which one. I am beginning to think Christianity is quickly losing any edge it ever had on speaking on any controversial moral issues in the world, homesexuality included. We are so hell bent on prohibition and very uninformed on responsibility. I am in Kenya a few times a year and I get more surprised when I meet a single woman above 18 who does not have a child out of wedlock.
@Nani, those countries you have mentioned have the highest suicide rate in the world.
In those nations, a knife stabbing is all over every news outlet because it's so rare. Not sure why you have singled out suicide but not the social safety net, low crime rates and general respect for fellow humans, traits that should be in the forefront of any place that claims to be Christian.
And how many inner kids in New York have kids out of wedlock,let alone the skid row and other inner cities . Has it ever occurred to you maybe most are by actions of the very same saints that is men , some raped, some caused by poverty and lured by grown ass men ( root cause of slay Queens ) and during traditional African society , men still raped young girls but society then was tightly knit and these men were forced to marry the girls, now, not so much. And even then , they preyed on girls as young as 8 to make them their 10th wife etc, so your observation about Christianity is deeply flawed . The traditional African was more flawed than meet the eyes but we would like to pretend how superior it was . Just like you, I get awed and shocked by number of boys who want me to be their sugar mummy and feed their asses, whatever happened to working hard mandingo man that was the African man?
Formerly, not sure whether this was entirely a response to my post or someone else who advocated return to African culture. The study compared regions that claim to adhere to Christian beliefs vs Atheist Scandinavian countries + Netherlands and Switzerland. My point is that we bury our heads in the sand when it comes to teaching kids responsibility and advocate for abstinence. How do you tell a kid to abstain while their bodies are telling them differently? How do you tell them to abstain while they are being lured out of their dire family situations with money? I fail to see where your response disagrees with my premise that Christianity has no authority to address current day moral issues. Everything is happening in spite of the teachings....another approach needs to be explored. Prohibition has NEVER worked anywhere. Look at the scandals that seem to follow the Kenyan pastors, male and female, everywhere.
Very correct. And this Hatred is "HATRED of the EVIL God hates; the EVIL Satan loves": SODOMY being one of them.
hehehehe maina we know yr wife is white kwani umemwanwashiwa by the tiny wicked white man thinker??In African culture gaysm ushetani its abomination.u forgot to remind us what the kenyan law says as u quote yr gaysm ushetani supports??This stinking shit immoral behaviours in my beautiful country kenya gives u 10 yrs in jail if ur not lyched b4 by the community?
Let us be honest and for once dig deep into our African values. The very idea of 2 men engaging in sex is very abhorrent and totally alienated from our African way of life.
God BLESS you Bobby. ABHORRENT of the Sin (and not the Sinner) is Key here whether we like it or not; whether we Agree or not.
Let us be honest and for once dig deep into our African values. The very idea of 2 men engaging in sex is very abhorrent and totally alienated from our African way of life.
What is african way of life?
Ni lazima tukubali ya kwamba tulipigwa msasa (brainwashed) kiwango ambacho tumepotea kabisa. Mimi sioni tofauti yoyote baina ya Mkenya ambaye sasa amekuwa shoga, mkristo, au mwislamu. Wote ni hali moja: wamepotea.
mkristo@ Guest1: Hamna tofauti baina yako na shoga. Nyote mmepotea baada ya kupigwa msasa na kufuata tabia na dini za kigeni.
Both are white. What is african there?
I will say this: I have come to accept difference and can honestly say I hold no ill feelings for gay people. Guest1, when you spew such strong feelings, do you ever wonder how you would react if one of your kids/relations came out as gay? The argument that we are Africans has been used many times when we want to shy away from reality. For those of you still hiding under an African rock, refusing to accept global changes, I urge you to take a walk down Nairobi/Mombasa or Thika at night and see real drama at play. Guest1, it must hurt to hate the way you do. Opinion yes, lakini you take it to a different level!
Pia, tusisahau ya kwamba, salamu za midomo kwa midomo yaani, "kupigana busu," ni ishara nyingine ya kupotea.
Kusema kweli hali yetu ya kupotea imefikia kiwango kibaya sana ambacho itakuwa mwuujiza (miracle) kufufuka tena.
Wengi wa wananchi wa Kenya yafaa wapelekwe kuishi Yuropa au nchi za Wanayuropa walikohamia kama Marekani, Canada, Mexico, Australia, na nchi nyinginezo kwa sababu wanaona haya (shame) kuwa Waafrika na wanapendelea vitendo karibu vyote vya Wanayuropa.
Kusema kweli: Huwezi kujiita Mwafrika iwapo:
1. Jina lako si la Kiafrika
2. Dini yako si ya Kiafrika
3. Nywele zako za bandia si za Kiafrika
4. Salamu zako ni za kupigana busu ya midomo
5. Maumbile yako yanafanana na yule unayempenda kwa mambo ya kufanya mapenzi, yaani, unapokuwa shoga ujue ya kwamba ushoga si mila za Kiafrika.
6. Lugha unayosema nyumbani kwako si ya Kiafrika
7. Unaweza Kuua mtu kwa urahisi.
Kufanya hivyo, si mila za Kiafrika
8. Huamini nchi yako na unaweka pesa zako katika benki za nje.
9. Unafikiri ya kwamba mtu asiye na shahada ni mjinga.
10. Unatumia lugha ya kigeni bungeni na huku unasema umesoma! Pia unasema ya kwamba, mtu asiye na shahada hawezi kuwa mwanabunge.
11. Ukiwa mwanabunge, unataka kulipwa mshahara na kupata marupurupu mengi na huku nchi yako ni maskini.
12. Chakula unachokula si cha Kiafrika
13. Kutoa rushwa ili upigiwe kura si Kiafrika
14. Kushiba na huku jirani zako wanakufa kwa njaa si desturi za Kiafrika!
15. Umegeuza ngozi yako isionekane kuwa ya Kiafrika!
16. Unanyolewa nywele zako kwa sababu unaona aibu kuwa na nywele za Kiafrika. (Katika taifa dogo ambalo mimi ninatoka, kunyolewa nywele ilikuwa ishara (sign) ya kwamba mmeshamzika mtu wa familia aliyekufa.
17. Unazaa watoto wengi ambao huwezi kuwavisha mavazi bora, kuwalisha chakula bora, kuwapa malezi bora kutokana na kuishi maisha bora, yaani, kutoa mfano kwao kwa vitendo si maneno tu!
Jameni:
Tujenge taifa letu kwa kutilia mkazo masomo ya kitaaluma na kudumisha asili yetu ya Kiafrika. Tujenge viwanda na kuanzisha biashara itakayowawezesha vijana wanaotoka shuleni kuwa na maisha ya kibinadamu. Tusione haya kuwa Waafrika kwa sababu hatukujiumba (we did not create ourselves), tuliumbwa na MWUMBAJI na akatupa akili kama alivyotoa akili kwa viumbe vyote alivyoumba. Hata kuku haoni haya kuwa kuku! Kwa nini sisi tuone haya/aibu kuwa na sura za Kiafrika na kujenga na pia kuuboresha utamaduni wa Kiafrika kama mababu zetu walivyofanya?
any male virgin who wants to lose their virginity .. come to me i give you some major loving .. you will never look at another female after this bull thoroughly works on you .. njoo nikupe matam tam
Since the likes of Guest1 use the Bible to condemn homosexuality, what exactly do they think of Bible verses that-
1. Condone slavery?
2. Imply the inferiority of the black race?
3. Require women to cover their heads?
4. Prohibit any contact with a woman at that time of the month?
Imara Daima, hiyo list.... lakini umesahao kutumia uwasiliano za social media (as you are) sio Kiafrica! I would have deconstructed your list moja kwa moja, lakini rushing out for my next shift....oops, not African, I hear you say! Nenda kavae Ngozi na mkuki, kisha tutaongea!
@Sukari
Mimi sina matatizo yoyote kukopa elimu, teknolojia, sayansi, bailojia, kemia (chemistry), fizika (chemistry), hesabu/hisabati (mathematics), ufundi, na njia zote za kuyafanya maisha kuwa rahisi kama utumiaji wa simu, kompyuta, kutuma ujumbe mfupi (sms) popote vitokapo.
Usisahau ndugu zetu Waarabu walifundisha dunia nzima mambo ya sifuri (zero) trigonometry, na pia algebra! Waswahili husema, "Elimu haina mwisho" na mimi naongeza "Elimu haina mipaka" (boundaries).
Kama ninasafiri mbali, sitatumia baiskeli, motokaa, au pikipiki. Nitatumia ndege. Dubwasha hizi zote za kusafiria ziko chini ya teknolojia. Mimi sina matatizo yoyote kukopa teknolojia popote itokapo.
samahani wasomaji: "fizika" kwa Kiswahili ni physics.
@Imara, you and I have had a few near misses, lakini I have to say sometimes you get under my skin with your hypocrisy! When you say we have been brainwashed, need to go back to our African roots well before wakoloni na Arabs and refuse to write in English then in the same token say you like to borrow things like chemistry, etc.. Well! That's really having your cake and eating it too! Even the Kiswahili names of these subjects you proudly smack in our faces are tweaked from English and are western. I dispute I am brainwashed. I consider myself an eclectic person, I pck and choose what works for me as I mix with all nationalities, but keep my mama's guidance and voice forever my navigator through life. This keeps my IDENTITY alive and thriving and don't need to feel inferior to those you consider have corrupted us. As I said, when you go back to the basics, i.e-go back to your man cave, don a Ngozi na mkuki and sent me a message via a drum or howling a horn, is when I will believe you truly shun these western ways. Until then, wacha kutuharibia hewa na propaganda nyingi!
@Sukari:
Asante sana kwa kutoa maoni yako juu ya "kupigwa msasa." Kuna mambo ambayo ulisema ya kweli na kuna mengine ambayo yanatokana na hasira.
Tofauti yangu kubwa na wewe ni juu ya mila, imani, na vidubwasha vya kurahisisha maisha. Binadamu wanashirikiana sana kuliko zamani. Binadamu wa sasa anakopa kutoka nje kitu ambacho hana.
Huwezi kukopa maji ikiwa unayo. Huwezi kukopa majina kama unayo, mwishowe, huwezi kukopa dini kama unayo. Kwa nini tunakopa vitu ambavyo tunavyo? Hili ndilo tatizo kubwa ambalo naliona likiwa kwenye fikira za mwafrika wa sasa.
Kwa nini Wachina wanakuja kutujengea reli miaka 55 baada ya kupata uhuru? Sababu moja kubwa ni kuwa hatujatilia mkazo masomo ambayo yanaweza kutufanya kuunda reli zetu, motokaa zetu, na pia kuzalisha chakula cha kutosha kwa wananchi wa Kenya.
Dada Sukari, tunaweza kutofautiana kwa mawazo fulani lakini ni muhimu tuendelee kuheshimiana.
Waswahili walisema, "Heshima si utumwa."
We Imara sipendi the way you always pull the "offended" card when cornered!. Now, when we get down to the nuts and bolts of the argument, the problem is with YOU. You as in your ego. YOU as in feeling inferior. YOU as in feeling helpless as people make coins around you (Chinese). YOU as the one left behind when the up and coming are making it. The question, big brother to you is: What difference are you making in that world you see so wronged? What political statement are you contributing in Kenya to ensure the roots are preserved? We all can payuka payuka and kuhangaika kama kuku anataka kutega, lakini respect is earned when your words are put into action! Hata hicho Kiswahili was borne from the very essence you despise. Now, what else is new?
@Sukari:
Nimefanya mengi ili kurekebisha (correct) maafa(calamity) yaliyotupata tulipovamiwa (ambushed) na Ndugu na Dada zetu kutoka Yuropa na pia Uarabuni. Jambo ambalo siwezi kufanya, nikujigamba (to brag) hadharani (in public) au kukupa orodha ya vitu ambavyo nimekamilisha au ninavyofanya.
Heshima si utumwa Dada sukari. Ni lazima tuheshimiane bila kudharauliana au kutukanana ingawa twaona dunia tofauti sana baada ya sisi sote kupigwa msasa.
Ndugu Imara wacha porojo. When you put your argument in a social platform, be prepared to be critiqued! Now, I have to halt this as I am feeling I have offended you. I like a good hearted debate, lakini when you spin - why are coming for me? attitude - you beat me 10 - nil. Can't deal with that! Man up baby.
BTW, what is "kupigwa msasa" you keep hammering about? Sounds like some matusi of sorts. Will check up on my kamusi. Have a good evening. Going to clock in sweetie!
Neno hili "piga msasa" linatoka nchi ya Tanzania. Maana ya neno "msasa" kwa Kiingereza ni " sand paper." Kwa hiyo, kupigwa msasa ni " to be sand papered or to be brainwashed."
Ningependa ujue ya kwamba hakuna jambo lolote unaloweza kusema au mtu yeyote kusema lifanye nikasirike!
Asante sana kwa maoni yako. Wewe ni mtu mwerevu sana.
Dada Sukari,
Nakuheshimu sana Dada Sukari. Inaonekana ya kwamba, sikuandika vizuri niliyotaka kusema, kwa hiyo, ningependa kueleza tena.
Ndugu zetu Wachina walitaka kuunda makombora ya kiniuklia. Kwa hiyo, waliwaendea rafiki zao Warusi ili wawaonyeshe jinsi ya kuunda. Waliwaendea kwa sababu Warusi walikuwa Wakomunisti kama Wachina. Warusi walikataa!
Wachina waliwaomba uwezo wa kuunda silaha za kiniuklia kwa kusema ya kwamba, hawataki kuwa na uwezo huu wa kiniuklia ili wawashambulie majirani, bali walitaka kujikinga tu yasiwapate yaliyowapata Wajapani wakati wa vita kuu ya pili duniani. Wajapani walipigwa makombora ya kiniuklia katika mji wa Hiroshima na nyingine mji wa Nagasaki (Agosti 6, na Agosti 9, 1945) na Wamarekani na kusababisha vifo vingi mno.
Wachina (ambao ni wataalamu wa hisabati) walifanya kazi pamoja bila kupata msaada wowote kutoka nje halafu tarehe 16, mwezi wa 10, mwaka wa 1964 wakalipua kombora la kiniuklia. Tangu wakati huo, Wachina wamesimama pamoja na kufanya kazi kwa bidii sana kiwango ambacho sasa, wanaotawala ulimwengu wa sasa kutokana na mambo ya kiuchumi.
Wachina wameendelea kiwango ambacho wamemrusha mwanahewa angani na kuizunguka ardhi mara kadhaa.
Dada Sukari Wachina wamefaulu sana Kisayansi bila kuacha asili yao ya Kichina, lugha yao ya Kichina, dini yao ya Kichina. Kwa nini sisi tusifuate nyayo za Wachina na kutumia sayansi, teknolojia kwa njia ya kujitegemea bila kuona aibu kusema lugha zetu, kujiita majina yetu, na pia kufuata imani asili?
Nakutakia kila la kheri Dada.
Ndugu Imara, I will let you have the last say in this one, and in true "African style" will not argue with my big brother. As I do with my own bro (who I love dearly but unfortunately likes to feel he is the dume/Jogoo in everything), I massage his ego by bowing out of petty wars and making him believe he is right/was his idea all along, although we both know it was bull. Now, see how I can swing from the sweet "African woman" who has not been "pigwad msasa to a feisty typical msasad one? Eclectic is my middle name and I credit my mama for it. A little bit of this, and a little bit of that adds spice to everything.
PS: Sipendi hiyo phrase ya kupigwa msasa Imara..sounds like matusi ya hali ya juu. Have a good day bro. Smile...I love you really.. it's all in the spirit of Mwakilishi (wink!).
Ha ha ha. I thought he was "coming out". The title of the article is misleading lol